Hasivo S1100WP-8XGT-SE Power Consumption and Noise
Since the power supply is internal, we just wanted to show the idle power consumption of this switch. It was shockingly low at only 10.8W.
What was most surprising is what happened when we added a short 10Gbase-T link. We saw only 11.2W. This was actually less than when we plugged the same run into the non-PoE switch.
At these lower power figures, the switch was very quiet. Both Bryan and Patrick heard a quiet but noticeable coil whine when PoE devices were plugged in.
The video also shows the noise at boot which is much higher before falling once the switch has fully booted. The boot noise and coil whine are demonstrated in the video and it is being shown inches from a $1000 microphone so you can hear it.
Final Words
It is hard to not feel a little bit upset by this switch. This is a $278 switch, plus quite high but relatively fast shipping ($75 to Austin, TX via DHL.) There are no regulatory or safety markings, but this is less than a third of the cost of anything comparable. It is even less expensive, including that shipping than the lowest cost 8-port 10Gbase-T unmanaged non-PoE switch we could find. That is absolutely silly. At some point, we need a traditional SMB vendor to step up and make something comparable.
The management was not great, and we found a bug, but it was fairly easy to use. For the basics, it seems to get the job done. At the same time, it is not one we would put into banking or other critical infrastructure. For a lab environment, if you just want cheap 10Gbase-T then this works. It was great to see it working with different NICs, even 10GbE Apple Mac products.
While this may not be the best 10Gbase-T switch on the market, it is hard to argue that the Hasivo S1100WP-8XGT-SE is not the cheapest 8-port, managed, PoE+, 10Gbase-T switch on the market.
Where to Buy
If you want to find this, we purchased this unit via AliExpress. You can find an Affiliate link to the model here. That link also has the non-PoE version.
Need Something Else? Ultimate Fanless 2.5GbE Switch Roundup
You may have seen that we published the Ultimate Cheap Fanless 2.5GbE Switch Mega Round-Up with options with 10GbE and 2.5GbE ports.
We decided to do the round-up first and will be filling in with reviews that we had not published at that point. We may add this one to the list, or a future round-up.
Without a reputable name brand to assure the inevitable security-related firmware updates, a managed switch in my opinion is less attractive than an unmanaged one.
A default password of admin is also not reassuring.
Are you able to do the throughput tests at various packet sizes? It’d be interesting to see the curve of total throughput by packet size for these switches. I suspect that some of the cheaper switches are going to fall off at small to medium packets
Is there a cheap 2.5GbE managed switch that anyone can suggest?
I understand that a lot of people want 2.5GbE capability, but when looking at 10GbE it seems to me that SFP+ is still a much better deal for the homelab than 10Gbase-T.
For less than this, you can get a 8 port SFP+ 10Gb switch from Mikrotik or Ubiquiti with full support — or Hasivo appears to have managed 8- and 12-port managed SFP+ 10Gb switches for $225 and $256 shipped, respectively.
Add in much more affordable secondhand SFP+ 10GbE adapters, and the total price ends up being a lot more attractive. (That seems likely to continue, as SFP+ is still strongly preferred in the enterprise environments I come across.) Something like the Horaco 2.5Gb switch reviewed recently could easily be used to add a few 2.5GbE ports for things that need them.
Don’t discount TP Link when it comes to SFP+ switches, their SX3008F is fully managed with a full Cisco-like CLI and a webGUI that has all features exposed (a rarity in my opinion), while costing similar to the Mikrotik offerings. The thing I like the most about the SX3008F though is the webGUI also has manual documentation on every page in the form of a ? button, that shows the relevant excerpt from the manual for the page you’re on.
I have the 5×2.5Gbpe + 2xSFP 10Gbe managed switch.
I think the confusion from “saving” settings is that it is required first to apply the new settings and then save configuration to “startup” config.
At least for me it took a bit to figure out.
While a bit strange, it is actually a good thing. This way it is possible to play with configuration and in case something goes terribly wrong, all that is required is to reboot the unit without need to reset it. Once desired config is working as intended, just save it to “startup” and/or “default”.
As a side note, it seems that PoE conclusions are a bit wrong. The first port is the most powerful (BT) and the rest are a bit more modest (AT) ports.
Eric Olson
This switch sits behind the router, so no real security issue.
The default password is the first thing to change.
Dakers
What you mean by cheap?
I’m not sure they have just 2.5 manged switch, but 5×2.5 + 2SFP managed PoE cost me 160$. Wich is kinda reasonable.
Dan T
The thing is that rj45 ports can offer PoE. They also use mostly existing cabling. Not to mention that most devices (and computers) do not have SFP ports. To ad 5gose, cost money.
Not to mention that non optical SFP modules with 1.2, 2.5, 5 and 10 Gbe speeds starting at around 50$ each.
So for the price of 3-4 modules, there are 5-8 ports switches.
So in my opinion for a non specific usecase, a “hybrid” switch with few of each type, is a more practical solution.
I don’t know. That Fluke can handle PoE++ so if it’s not picking it up it’s not standards compliant. Even if it works, if real test gear doesn’t recognize then I’d assume it’s not working
Finally a decent budget 10G switch! Did you test whether the PoE was isolated? If it isn’t, and you use it to power a mini PC, as soon as you plug in a monitor it will short out the switch’s power supply (if everything is earthed properly) and likely shut down the switch until the network cable (or monitor cable) is unplugged to remove the short. This limits the usefulness of PoE to only devices that don’t connect to any peripherals, like IP cameras.
Also in your power measurements it would be nice to use something like the HOPI that Big Clive (YouTube) uses as it will display things like power factor that give you a better indication of the quality of the power supply (lazy designs will have a PF closer to zero, while well designed supplies will have a PF closer to 1). In many countries businesses pay more for electricity if they run a lot of devices with poor power factor, and if a device with a poor power factor is run off a UPS, it will waste more energy as heat inside the UPS reducing battery run time, so it’s useful to know the PF for a number of reasons.
This seems like a great product to use when distributing networking to wifi 7 aps, you want more than 2.5g uplink and poe, but it is 1/4 the cost of alternate 10g poe solutions.
This review brings up too many red flags for me to even consider this product in a passing thought.
He’s missing a good uplink like a 100G port.
But for this price tag, it’s a good proposal.
Question, does it support RDMA/RoCE? I’d guess no, but it would be amazing if it did :)
Glad to see 10GBASE-T, unlike some commentors below who think SFP is better, I strongly disagree for a home 10gig network. You cannot wire your walls with DACs, Cat6a is light-years easier than fiber to install, and with 10GBASE-T you don’t have to waste money on transceivers…and that whole “sfp NICs are cheaper” isn’t true anymore….you can go on ebay right now and buy an Intel X550-T2 for $40, so unless you only need to hook up one computer that’s 3 feet from your switch, I don’t understand why anybody would prefer SFP for a home network.
@Chris L.
I’ve got fibre running across my house (next to CAT6). In euroland we have standard sized wallplates with modules 50mmx25mm that can hold audio plugs, speaker terminals, RJ45 ports, HDMI, and … OM4 sockets. Off the shelf cables just plug in the rear for the link and in the front to your device, so no termination required, the back to back connector is in the wallplate.
I went with fibre for 10G a few years back as the power consumption was hugely less (and toys like the Mikrotik CRS305 etc were *cheap*).
CAT6 is easier, but there’s still other considerations esp in europe where some countries have experienced domestic power costs of $1.50/kwh in the past year.
Following my comment above, can’t help feeling my ideal version of this would be 4x 10gbase-T, 4x SFP+ to allow a transition to 10gbaseT as multigig becomes more standard in prosumer environments. Top of the rack and replace once a winner has shown itself.
Security concerns? Maybe, but i’d never put anything not big-brand anywhere near my employers network (including Ubiquiti that I use at home).
I am not sure what audience is more pleased with this plunge into the depths of the 3rd tier network switch markets. You are pleased to find cheap switch bandwidth, home labbers are pleased to read that cheap switch bandwidth is available or you are trying to shame 2nd tier switch providers to respond with compliant gear at the same price.
Good to see copper 10000BT, the previous 10GB have been SFP+ and if you don’t have any recent experience of this area it is quite complicated, searching for it doesn’t really help. There’s also the issue of interoperability, termination of fibre etc. I’m not a network noob either, I’ve worked on 10B2, econet, RS232, RS453, token ring, Cisco cat switches in the 2000s. The SFP scene is confusing.
Why security concerns? You’re going to have it behind your firewall and I’d be locking down what can speak to the outside world etc.
Well. Thank the gods for competition from the Chinese! American vendors have been sucking the 10GBe teat for a long long long time.
2.5 GBe FFS. They’d try to offer 2.75, then 3, then 3.125, the ripoff would never end.
You shouldn’t be upset, Rohit. You should be grateful.
You should also check the XikeStor SKS7300-8GPY4XGS, no PoE, but good price and combination of 2.5 and 10G.
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Hello,
I purchased S1100WP-8GT-SE however the IP does not persist on restarting switch, making the switch completely useless, as it defaults to static IP of 192.168.0.1, has this issue been resolved in this S1100WP-8XGT-SE model?
To save the config on the S600WP, you have to specifically copy the running-config to the startup-config. I’d imagine this is the same. But until I tried the latest firmware, the S600WP wouldn’t even let me set it to dhcp, I had to telnet in to configure it.
I have this same switch here and PoE works fine on all 8 ports. I suspect yours has a fault if it wasn’t working on the first port.
I too found a lot of bugs in the firmware, including security vulnerabilities and completely nonfunctional IPv6 support. I also wasn’t able to find an updated firmware anywhere or contact hasivo via their wechat, has anyone had luck getting hold of anyone?